From mhoneyfield at orcon.net.nz Fri Oct 7 02:31:18 2005 From: mhoneyfield at orcon.net.nz (Michael Honeyfield) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:31:18 +1300 Subject: [classic-discuss] broken kernel development package Message-ID: <4345DDF6.90009@orcon.net.nz> Hi, trying to build a kernel module and I get this when it enters the source tree to start the build: make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.13-1ts-i586' CHK include/linux/version.h CHK include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h /bin/sh: arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s: No such file or directory UPD include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h mv: cannot stat `include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h.tmp': No such file or directory make[2]: *** [include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.13-1ts-i586' make[1]: *** [default] Error 2 Also note this when trying to scrub the tree: [michael at athena 2.6.13-1ts-i586]$ sudo make mrproper fs/hostfs/Makefile:11: arch/um/scripts/Makefile.rules: No such file or directory make[2]: *** No rule to make target `arch/um/scripts/Makefile.rules'. Stop. make[1]: *** [fs/hostfs] Error 2 make: *** [_clean_fs] Error 2 [michael at athena 2.6.13-1ts-i586]$ Any clues? Suggestions? Cheers Mike From jh at tinysofa.org Fri Oct 7 04:43:47 2005 From: jh at tinysofa.org (Jaakko Heinonen) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 07:43:47 +0300 Subject: [classic-discuss] broken kernel development package In-Reply-To: <4345DDF6.90009@orcon.net.nz> References: <4345DDF6.90009@orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <20051007044347.GA1246@ws.jh.dy.fi> Hi, On 2005-10-07, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > Hi, trying to build a kernel module and I get this when it enters the > source tree to start the build: Are trying to build a kernel module which is included in kernel or "3rd party" module? For "3rd party" modules kernel-devel works just fine. > [michael at athena 2.6.13-1ts-i586]$ sudo make mrproper > fs/hostfs/Makefile:11: arch/um/scripts/Makefile.rules: No such file or > directory > make[2]: *** No rule to make target `arch/um/scripts/Makefile.rules'. Stop. > make[1]: *** [fs/hostfs] Error 2 > make: *** [_clean_fs] Error 2 kernel-devel has minimum files to build kernel modules. It's not a complete kernel source. You are not supposed to run make commands in /usr/src/kernels/* . If you need the full kernel source you need to use source rpm package. -- Jaakko From mhoneyfield at orcon.net.nz Fri Oct 7 05:05:48 2005 From: mhoneyfield at orcon.net.nz (Michael Honeyfield) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:05:48 +1300 Subject: [classic-discuss] broken kernel development package In-Reply-To: <20051007044347.GA1246@ws.jh.dy.fi> References: <4345DDF6.90009@orcon.net.nz> <20051007044347.GA1246@ws.jh.dy.fi> Message-ID: <4346022C.9060008@orcon.net.nz> Jaakko Heinonen wrote: >Hi, > >On 2005-10-07, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > > >>Hi, trying to build a kernel module and I get this when it enters the >>source tree to start the build: >> >> > >Are trying to build a kernel module which is included in kernel or "3rd >party" module? For "3rd party" modules kernel-devel works just fine. > > 3rd party module. If I am not mistaken, the kernel package is modelled after the FC packages? This module I am working with build fine on FC/RHEL/SuSE/debian and so forth, just have headaches here. Mike From jh at tinysofa.org Fri Oct 7 12:20:19 2005 From: jh at tinysofa.org (Jaakko Heinonen) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:20:19 +0300 Subject: [classic-discuss] broken kernel development package In-Reply-To: <4346022C.9060008@orcon.net.nz> References: <4345DDF6.90009@orcon.net.nz> <20051007044347.GA1246@ws.jh.dy.fi> <4346022C.9060008@orcon.net.nz> Message-ID: <20051007122018.GA1919@ws.jh.dy.fi> On 2005-10-07, Michael Honeyfield wrote: > 3rd party module. > > If I am not mistaken, the kernel package is modelled after the FC > packages? Right. > This module I am working with build fine on > FC/RHEL/SuSE/debian and so forth, just have headaches here. I haven't had problems to build modules with kernel-devel. Can you point out module source code, full build+configure logs and commands used? Build log from successful build on FC could be useful too. -- Jaakko From mikkel at t48.dk Fri Oct 7 15:49:16 2005 From: mikkel at t48.dk (Mikkel Nielsen) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:49:16 +0200 Subject: [classic-discuss] Question? Message-ID: <434698FC.7000300@t48.dk> Hi. We have been using tiny classic for about one year, and i signed up to the mailinglist for about half a year ago.I think i'v got 5 mails from the list. How can this bee? I think it's one of the best server dist's i ever seen and we are using it on all our production-servers. So i wonder.... How many are appx. using this dist? (If anyone have a idea) Who is developing this dist? Howcome are updates out so *fast* without any traffic on the mailinglist? Thanks, Mikkel Nielsen Denmark P.S. Keep up the nice work, really loves this dist! From mbak at fxnet.hu Fri Oct 7 16:19:33 2005 From: mbak at fxnet.hu (Mikael Bak) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 18:19:33 +0200 Subject: [classic-discuss] Question? In-Reply-To: <434698FC.7000300@t48.dk> References: <434698FC.7000300@t48.dk> Message-ID: <20051007181933.14dce8dc.mbak@fxnet.hu> On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:49:16 +0200 Mikkel Nielsen wrote: [snip] > > How many are appx. using this dist? (If anyone have a idea) > I don't know. I do. Still using the classic 1.1 though. > Who is developing this dist? > http://classic.tinysofa.org/development/ > Howcome are updates out so *fast* without any traffic on the mailinglist? > I am really amazed too. I don't know how they do it. > Thanks, > > Mikkel Nielsen > Denmark > > P.S. Keep up the nice work, really loves this dist! > I relly like it too. And I would like to thank all the developers and contributors who made this possible Mikael Bak, Budapest, Hungary From mhoneyfield at orcon.net.nz Fri Oct 7 18:07:17 2005 From: mhoneyfield at orcon.net.nz (Michael Honeyfield) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 07:07:17 +1300 Subject: [classic-discuss] broken kernel development package In-Reply-To: <20051007122018.GA1919@ws.jh.dy.fi> References: <4345DDF6.90009@orcon.net.nz> <20051007044347.GA1246@ws.jh.dy.fi> <4346022C.9060008@orcon.net.nz> <20051007122018.GA1919@ws.jh.dy.fi> Message-ID: <4346B955.2030303@orcon.net.nz> Jaakko Heinonen wrote: >>This module I am working with build fine on >>FC/RHEL/SuSE/debian and so forth, just have headaches here. >> >> > >I haven't had problems to build modules with kernel-devel. Can you point >out module source code, full build+configure logs and commands used? >Build log from successful build on FC could be useful too. > > I have worked around it for now, not the best way IMHO. I will investigate the issue further wehn time permits and let you know my findings. Cheers Mike From mail-lists at s235.de Sat Oct 8 10:06:16 2005 From: mail-lists at s235.de (Dominik Schips) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:06:16 +0200 Subject: [classic-discuss] Question? In-Reply-To: <434698FC.7000300@t48.dk> References: <434698FC.7000300@t48.dk> Message-ID: <200510081206.16261.mail-lists@s235.de> Am Freitag, 7. Oktober 2005 17:49 schrieb Mikkel Nielsen: > I think i'v got 5 mails from > the list. > How can this bee? > I think it's one of the best server dist's i ever seen > and we are using it on all our production-servers. So i wonder.... > How many are appx. using this dist? (If anyone have a idea) > Who is developing this dist? At the moment there are only 3 (core) developers working on tinysofa as I know. Maintainer of the classic is Jaakko Heinonen and for the enterprise it is Omar Kilani. Gerald Dachs is another developer. tinysofa needs more developers and help to keep tinysofa as nice at it is. > Howcome are updates out so *fast* without any traffic on the mailinglist? Jaakko Heinonen is working very hard on TCS. Thank you for this Jaakko. You can view the work process on http://minbar.tinysofa.org/ > P.S. Keep up the nice work, really loves this dist! Me too! tinysofa is wonderful. -- Best regards, Dominik Schips From mbak at fxnet.hu Fri Oct 14 13:09:31 2005 From: mbak at fxnet.hu (Mikael Bak) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:09:31 +0200 Subject: [classic-discuss] [ANN] Midnight Commander package for TCS2.0 Message-ID: <1129295371.3338.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi list, I missed this one in contrib so I build it. Here it is if someone else needs it: http://miba.fxnet.hu/tinysofa/tcs2.0/ Have fun! Mikael From munderwood at iinet.net.au Fri Oct 21 09:34:54 2005 From: munderwood at iinet.net.au (mark) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:34:54 +0800 Subject: [classic-discuss] booting classic sofa from floppy Message-ID: <4358B63E.1030703@iinet.net.au> Hi I'm trying to install tiny-sofa classic on a computer that doesn't boot from the cd-rom. it also doesnt have usb. is there a way to boot the install without these. I have a floppy drive but, i cant seem to find a floppy method on the d/l site. Sorry if this is a stupid question. But a lot of other distros have a floppy version so i was surprised when you guys didnt. Thanks for all you help Mark From munderwood at iinet.net.au Fri Oct 21 09:35:53 2005 From: munderwood at iinet.net.au (mark) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:35:53 +0800 Subject: [classic-discuss] booting classic sofa from floppy Message-ID: <4358B679.6000301@iinet.net.au> Hi I'm trying to install tiny-sofa classic on a computer that doesn't boot from the cd-rom. it also doesnt have usb. is there a way to boot the install without these. I have a floppy drive but, i cant seem to find a floppy method on the d/l site. Sorry if this is a stupid question. But a lot of other distros have a floppy version so i was surprised when you guys didnt. Thanks for all you help Mark From gda at tinysofa.org Fri Oct 21 10:41:10 2005 From: gda at tinysofa.org (Gerald Dachs) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:41:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [classic-discuss] booting classic sofa from floppy In-Reply-To: <4358B63E.1030703@iinet.net.au> References: <4358B63E.1030703@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <54490.139.1.44.13.1129891270.squirrel@sohoserver.homelinux.net> > > Hi > > I'm trying to install tiny-sofa classic on a computer that doesn't boot > from the cd-rom. it also doesnt have usb. is there a way to boot the > install without these. I have a floppy drive but, i cant seem to find a > floppy method on the d/l site. Sorry if this is a stupid question. But a > lot of other distros have a floppy version so i was surprised when you > guys didnt. Sorry to say, but we don't have a floppy version of the bootloader anymore. It was allways so complicated to fit the kernel and the necessary modules on a floppy image. I install tcs regulary on computes that don't have a floppy and a cd-rom either. I use kickstart to install it from another computer that works as a pxe server. For this you need a netword card that can boot from a pxe server, or a floppy with etherboot for this card. A more simple approach is to make a basic install on a computer with cd-rom boot and exchange afterwords the harddisk. The only configuration change you might have to do then, is to edit the module for your network card in the /etc/modprobe.conf file. > Thanks for all you help Hope that helps Gerald From jh at tinysofa.org Mon Oct 24 17:38:54 2005 From: jh at tinysofa.org (Jaakko Heinonen) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:38:54 +0300 Subject: [classic-discuss] mplayer packages for tcs 2.0 Message-ID: <20051024173853.GA2022@ws64.jh.dy.fi> Updated mplayer packages for tinysofa classic server 2.0 are available here: http://jh.dy.fi/~jaakko/mplayer/ -- Jaakko