From allegre.88 at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 15:07:17 2006 From: allegre.88 at gmail.com (chris p) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:07:17 +1000 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] (no subject) Message-ID: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm a student, happily learning linux and trying to setup tinysofa enterprise as a home web server. I've installed the LAMPP package from http://www.apachefriends.org/xampp-en.html into the /opt/ directory as suggested but I'd love a hand with, and, thanks in anticipation; 1) linking? removing? the existing httpd setup and getting the LAMPP install to run instead ( i've tried removing httpd using rm -rf etc, fumbled through changing various cli edits to try and point the boot process to /opt/lampp/ etc ... and all i get is the default tinysofa www page. 2) off-topic?, i'm really struggling with httpd.conf settings. localhost / 127.0.0.1 works on the box, but it's not serving a page to the lan... i've got a 192.168.n.n address, got a domain, is there a sample .conf file around I can check? 3) guide to setting up a webcam? Even if you can forward me a weblink or two, i'd be grateful. Cheers, Alle ps: tinysofa enterprise server proudly running on a $25 1985 Celeron 433. Omar and team.. I am simply amazed!! This is the first time i've installed a serious linux platform (I dont count running d___small linux) and i've learnt; I'm getting more familiar with the cli, installed xfce4, happier using links for web browsing, really! disabled acpi_poweroff because the system wouldn't shutdown. From jc at thp.org Wed Apr 12 15:17:58 2006 From: jc at thp.org (John Coonrod) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:17:58 -0400 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <443D1A26.3020108@thp.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tinysofa.org/pipermail/tinysofa-discuss/attachments/20060412/1cdc126c/attachment.html From rob at ellis-solicitors-chester.co.uk Wed Apr 12 15:22:46 2006 From: rob at ellis-solicitors-chester.co.uk (Rob Pomeroy) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:22:46 +0000 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <443D1B46.2060901@ellis-solicitors-chester.co.uk> chris p wrote: >I've installed the LAMPP package >from http://www.apachefriends.org/xampp-en.html > Oops. That was probably a bad idea. Tinysofa includes all the necessary packages. apt-get install php5 apt-get install httpd apt-get install perl apt-get install mysql5 etc. Do: apt-cache search php5 (for example), to find out all the possible additional packages. From memory, there's a php5-apache module (can't remember what it's called) which sets up integration with apache automagically. >i've tried removing httpd using rm -rf etc, > Not that was DEFINITELY a bad idea! I suggest you reinstall from scratch. Only ever uninstall packages using apt, otherwise who knows what mayhem you will cause? >2) off-topic?, i'm really struggling with httpd.conf settings. >localhost / 127.0.0.1 works on the box, but it's not serving a page to >the lan... > > Unlikely to be a httpd.conf issue. Have you switched on the Tinysofa firewall? If so, you will need to explicitly allow connections to Apache/port 80. >3) guide to setting up a webcam? > > Never done it, sorry. Do you have a webcam that is known to work with Linux? >ps: tinysofa enterprise server proudly running on a $25 1985 Celeron 433. > > I think possibly you mean a 19_9_5 Celeron? I have heard of people installing Linux on an old Toshiba Libretto (P100, virtually no RAM), but I'm really not sure it's worth the pain! Hope your machine has plenty of RAM though, especially if you're planning to run a database server. I contribute to an online support forum (free!) over at http://www.computerhope.com, which has a Linux section, so if you require more interactive support and you have issues that are not specifically Tinysofa related, feel free to drop in. -- Rob Pomeroy: rob at ellis-solicitors-chester.co.uk Solicitor specialising in charity law, wills, probate and trusts Ellis & Co. Solicitors, 10 Castle Street, Chester, CH1 2DS Telephone: 01244 319388; Fax: 01244 319333 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tinysofa.org/pipermail/tinysofa-discuss/attachments/20060412/a5f1421b/attachment.html From mikael at tinysofa.org Wed Apr 12 15:39:03 2006 From: mikael at tinysofa.org (Mikael Bak) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:39:03 +0200 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200604121739.04281.mikael@tinysofa.org> On Wednesday 12 April 2006 17:07, chris p wrote: > Hi all, > Hi, > I'm a student, happily learning linux and trying to setup tinysofa > enterprise as a home web server. I've installed the LAMPP package > from http://www.apachefriends.org/xampp-en.html into the /opt/ > directory as suggested but I'd love a hand with, and, thanks in > anticipation; > First off, I've never tried this software bundle you mention above. But I'll try to give you some pointers anyway. > 1) linking? removing? the existing httpd setup and getting the LAMPP > install to run instead ( i've tried removing httpd using rm -rf etc, > fumbled through changing various cli edits to try and point the boot > process to /opt/lampp/ etc ... and all i get is the default tinysofa > www page. > Ok. If you only want to stop the default tinysofa http server, then type "service httpd stop". If you want to disable it from starting at startup, then type "chkconfig httpd off". I can't however tell you how to make the other webserver start automatically at boot. You'll have to consult the manual of that software. > 2) off-topic?, i'm really struggling with httpd.conf settings. > localhost / 127.0.0.1 works on the box, but it's not serving a page to > the lan... > i've got a 192.168.n.n address, got a domain, is there a sample .conf > file around I can check? > If I were you... I would not install the softwate bundle you mention. I would use the the webserver, php engine, mysql database engine provided by the distribution. This way you can get more help from us and you get software automatically updated too. > 3) guide to setting up a webcam? > Be more specific. Is this "webcam" some intelligent network device that has an IP address of its own or is this something you've stick into the USB in you computer? > Even if you can forward me a weblink or two, i'd be grateful. > http://www.tinysofa.org/documentation/index.cgi?TwoPointZero HTH, Mikael From andrew at neep.com.au Thu Apr 13 02:50:46 2006 From: andrew at neep.com.au (Andrew Shugg) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:50:46 +0800 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4eb4690604120807nb03cf49r67c62531be5c8e7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060413025046.GA2470@neep.com.au> chris p said: > I'm a student, happily learning linux and trying to setup tinysofa > enterprise as a home web server. I've installed the LAMPP package > from http://www.apachefriends.org/xampp-en.html into the /opt/ > directory as suggested but I'd love a hand with, and, thanks in > anticipation; > > 1) linking? removing? the existing httpd setup and getting the LAMPP > install to run instead ( i've tried removing httpd using rm -rf etc, > fumbled through changing various cli edits to try and point the boot > process to /opt/lampp/ etc ... and all i get is the default tinysofa > www page. Don't rm -rf stuff that TinySofa installed, because then the package management system won't know that it's gone. Instead you can use the tool "apt-get" to add and remove packages, and then TinySofa can keep track of what's been put where. Try 'apt-get --help' for starters. > 2) off-topic?, i'm really struggling with httpd.conf settings. > localhost / 127.0.0.1 works on the box, but it's not serving a page to > the lan... > i've got a 192.168.n.n address, got a domain, is there a sample .conf > file around I can check? The httpd.conf file needs to be told about your 192.168.n.n address - one of the ways to do this is using a block. For example: (cut here) NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1 NameVirtualHost 192.168.n.n AllowOverride None Options None order deny,allow deny from all Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None order deny,allow deny from all allow from localhost .my.domain.name ServerAdmin my at address DocumentRoot /srv/www ServerName my.server.name ErrorLog myservername-error.log CustomLog myservername-access.log combined Alias /icons/ /srv/www/icons/ AllowOverride all Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec IndexIgnore .htaccess lost+found IndexOptions +ScanHTMLTitles +NameWidth=* Order Deny,Allow Deny from all Allow from localhost .my.domain.name order allow,deny deny from all (cut here) Obviously you'd have to change n.n to the correct IP address, and put in the right path names, etc. For more information about config file directives, the Apache web site has very good documentation. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ The same stuff should be under your own /srv/www/manual directory. > 3) guide to setting up a webcam? Assuming it's some kind of digital camera attached by USB to your PC, you'll need some software to get the images, and (possibly) the v4l (video for Linux) drivers loaded in the kernel. Here's a link, but you should search for your specific webcam model using "linux webcam ..." on Google. http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html Andrew S. -- Andrew Shugg http://www.neep.com.au/ "Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself." "Is there? Well I'd like to meet him. I could do with a good laugh." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 11/04/2006 From andrew at neep.com.au Thu Apr 13 11:55:58 2006 From: andrew at neep.com.au (Andrew Shugg) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:55:58 +0800 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20060413063606.B57E785279@mx1.au.network4.org> References: <20060413025046.GA2470@neep.com.au> <20060413063606.B57E785279@mx1.au.network4.org> Message-ID: <20060413115557.GE2470@neep.com.au> Rob Pomeroy said: > I hate to contradict, but this may confuse the original poster. What you > suggest is ONLY necessary if you are using virtual hosting - unlikely in > this case I would think. I suggested a virtual host as this lets you try changing Apache config options within a small container, and not having to worry about all the default settings throughout the httpd.conf file. I do acknowledge your point though. =) And apologies to the original poster if it was confusing. > > The same stuff should be under your own /srv/www/manual directory. > > Iff the manual is installed and configured... It was on my TinySofa; I assumed it came in by default. I see now that you do need to have the 'http-manual-*' package installed. Andrew. -- Andrew Shugg http://www.neep.com.au/ "Just remember, Mr Fawlty, there's always someone worse off than yourself." "Is there? Well I'd like to meet him. I could do with a good laugh." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will check the documentation for explicitly allowing connections to Apache/port 80, and setup the system boot order using the chkconfig method. Ta Mikael. The webcam(s) are cheap usb models, and i know I have to search for the appropriate linux drivers. I have found the windows drivers as a start, and I am reading up the xawtv and motion instructions. Andrew, thanks for the info on configuring the httpd.conf settings. I will eventually be looking at virtual hosting, and found the docs in the /srv/www/manual dir. Looks like I was reading the BIOS date on the machine rather than the manufacture date. If you are interested, the box is a DELL GX100, Celeron 433, 128Mb ram, although I will be adding more ram asap. Thank you all again for all your advice, Alle From jc at thp.org Fri Apr 14 12:35:27 2006 From: jc at thp.org (John Coonrod) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:35:27 -0400 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] Thanks all In-Reply-To: <4eb4690604140520x21e2f5m9a38fc072cc47664@mail.gmail.com> References: <4eb4690604140520x21e2f5m9a38fc072cc47664@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <443F970F.4060708@thp.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tinysofa.org/pipermail/tinysofa-discuss/attachments/20060414/81f63e24/attachment.html From misiu_ at gmx.de Sun Apr 16 17:41:05 2006 From: misiu_ at gmx.de (misiu) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:41:05 +0200 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] dump question Message-ID: <444281B1.1090104@gmx.de> Hi list, I'm new. Is tinysofa still under developement?? Web seems outdated.... m From rob at ellis-solicitors-chester.co.uk Mon Apr 17 04:51:24 2006 From: rob at ellis-solicitors-chester.co.uk (Rob Pomeroy) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:51:24 +0100 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] dump question In-Reply-To: <444281B1.1090104@gmx.de> Message-ID: <000001c661da$a05249b0$082ba8c0@obsidianadmin.co.uk> > Is tinysofa still under developement?? Yes indeed - check the mailing list archives. From misiu_ at gmx.de Mon Apr 17 10:54:49 2006 From: misiu_ at gmx.de (misiu) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:54:49 +0200 Subject: [tinysofa-discuss] dump question In-Reply-To: <444296E2.30906@mcmillen.tk> References: <444281B1.1090104@gmx.de> <444296E2.30906@mcmillen.tk> Message-ID: <444373F9.5080607@gmx.de> Alex McMillen schrieb: > Hi list, I'm new. >> Is tinysofa still under developement?? >> Web seems outdated.... > It's actively developed. > O.k. but what is the difference between tiny enterprise and tiny classic? Classic seems for me to be more updated or more security... Sorry I'm just confused. Looked over so many Linux Distris recently... It all blurs into an big bubble. Right now I'm using Debian, but I don't whant to recompile Kernel everytime, for security features... I had used Trustix but with Version 3.0 I'm having too many problems... Adamantix is not ready at all and Openbsd is to way off.... m